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The doctor urged me to come to Germany to discuss Himmler's position with
him, and to see whether a settlement might not be possible. He indicated clearly that, on certain
conditions, Himmler was prepared to overthrow Hitler, and that he was the only man who had
power to do so in Germany. I told him that, I did not represent the American government, and
that I did not even know what the current policies of the American government were, and that on
this account, it would be pointless for me to talk with Himmler. The doctor then suggested that I
return to Washington, familiarize myself with the position of the American government and come
back to Europe.
He mentioned to me that Himmler was organizing his government within the SS,
and that his two chief advisors on foreign affairs were Ober Fuehrer Walter Schellenberg and Dr.
Braun; that he would be glad to get one of these men to come to Stockholm to confirm what he
had been saying to me. Within a couple of days, he told me that Schellenberg was in Stockholm
and would like to see me.