-20- an attitude of indifference as a normal attitude under existing circumstances, and yet it seems to me probable that there must be thousands of little people in Germany who are very much more concerned with their own everyday affairs than with considerations of national politics. Moreover, intellectuals tend to forget how many people live merely from day to day with a feeling of reasonable satisfaction when a day passes with reasonable comfort. Of course, when things get bad enough that is no longer the case, but as I have said there is no evidence of malnutrition in Berlin, and the sufferings of the Germans today are what may be described as moral and spiritual rather than physical. I should think that today the amount of physical pain in Germany as in other countries that arises from disease is a hundredfold greater than the physical suffering that may be directly or indirectly of political origin. The truth is that only one remark that I heard while I was in Germany implies a tendency to look at the phenomena with cold objectivity. This remark was made by perhaps the most distinguished of all the persons with whom I talked. It was elicited by my statement that I hoped to understand and did not wish to criticize or to form moral judgments. The reply was something like this. Perhaps after all what has been happening in Germany in the last few years is a process which, apart from its details, was inevitable and determined independently of the plans or ideas or wishes of any single group of individuals. Perhaps, in short, it is the working out of a political, social and economic process, already in many respects determined by forces that were present before Hitler came into power. Now that I have put these words down I realize that they are my own and that something less was said to me. In short, this is my interpretation of the opinion behind what was said, but I think it tolerably correct as an inter- |