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I referred to the question of Communism and the fear
prevalent in Europe that the cessation of hostilities will lead to the
immediate spread of this doctrine throughout the continent. I explained that
I believed these fears to be greatly exaggerated. In my own country, in
cases of dissatisfaction among laborers in the steel industry or automobile
plants, for example, the coinunity was inclined to describe this as
Communism. Wherever there was want there would be dissatisfaction, but with
adequate relief measures and the prompt establishment of an orderly system
ontrol, I felt sure, we would be able to cope with this ques
Needless to say, all of these measures which we are planning to take are
predicated on the assumption that the war will end in a complete defeat of
many, of which the American people and Government are convin
I said that I had also conveyed the foregoing to His Holiness the Pope, to
the Cardinal Secretary of State Magilone, and other important officials in
the Vatican. I had had a most satisfactory visit with General Jordana, of
whom I formed a very high opinion. He received my Government's views with
cordial comprehension. I had also had the pleasure of am interview with
General Franco whom I described as a soldier whose mind is focused on
military events rather than on the prohlems of peace. Dr. Salazar's
amusement at these observations seemed clearly to indicate that he shared
my estimate of the General's mental processes.
As regards Russians I said that I was conscious of a feeling in the Vatican
and Madrid that the British Alliance with Russia and our association as
members of the United Nations was regarded askance in t hose capitals. I
explained to Dr. Salazar that we regarded the Russian Government as a
wayward child, and I was not convinced that that country would not prove to
be a useful and benificial factor in the post war world. I mentioned that a
year ago when I was at the vatican and met some of our delegates proceeding
to Russia, I had counseled them to impress upon Mr. Stalin the necessity for
permitting religious freedom in Russia and freedom in other respects. I
pointed out to Dr. Salazar that this was specifically mentioned in the
lantic Charter, of which the Soviet government was a signato
As regards territorial changes, I did not attempt to do more than touch
lightly on this intricate problem, but mentioned that with good will and the
application of moral principles we could avoid many of the mistakes of the
last peace.I stated specifically that none of the statetureen with
whom I had talked believed it possible that a country of 80
millions could control the hundreds of millions and the vast
areas which are now under the occupation of Germany. The
religious, racial and political problems involved were too vast. I asked
the Prime Minister if he were familiar with Monsieur Briand's plan for a
reorganized Europe and he replied that he was. I said that I felt that this
plan would be too difficult