Dr. Salazar did not make any statement to that effect, from the manner in
which he referred to Hitler and his policy of revenge, conquest, and
hegemony, he clearly conveyed the inpression that this was wholly
distasteful to him and I think it fair to interpret from the tone of Dr.
Salazar's cautious remarks that he would be relieved to see the last of
Hitler.
Dr. Salazar then said that when I was last here I had expressed the view
that Germany might suffer a collapse and asked whether I still felt this
was the case. I replied that the tremendous losses in men and material
which Germany was suffering at the Russian front - and the most competent
military advisers had assured me that the struggle would continue
throughout the winter- might lead to the downfall of Hitler. His
disappearance and that of the men surrounding him was essential to peace.
Dr. Salazar replied that though this might be conceivable, he couldnot see
any liklihood of a collapse in Germany in the near future.
Dr. Salazar added that all reports from Germany seemed to indicate that
the German people themselves are sick of the war and are weighed down with
acute consciousness that the series of victories in the last war had only
culminated in Germany's ultimate defeat. To be sure the German army and
the party members, buoyed up by German victories are still animated by a
ke spirit, but this is definitely not shared by the German p
I mentioned that all Italians, excepting, of course,
Mussolini who is gambling everything on the war, were desperately anxious
for peace. The food situation was serious, the Italians disliked the
Germans before and loathed them now- a feeling which the Germans
reciprocated - and they would give anything to be out of the war.
Italians had come to me in a pitiable state some with tears in their eyes
in the hope that I could bring them peace. Of courze, I could do nothing.
Dr. Salazar indicated that, his information regarding Italy was similar.
He said that the Italians were not a warlike people,
they were artists, that, this was the fourth war that Mussolini
had led them into and of course they had no stomach for it.
The Germans, he said, were a different breed. They were naturally a
military people who regarded warns one of the highest of human
expressions- He said this in an oratorical manner in such a way as to
simply his contempt for such a philosophy.
I recalled Dr. Salazar's statement in my conversation of a
year ago that he could not visualize the battle ground for the decisive
battle of the war. Did he still hold this view? Dr. Salazar replied that
he had heard much talk of a second front. The British had made landings on
the coast of Europe and had withdrawn. Most of Europe was occupied and
defended, a word which he used with some emphasis, Could a successful
invasion be made on a large scale on the continent? It, was not clear to
him that this was feasible. At present, Britain's battle was on the sea
where the struggle was being conducted with great intensity. To Great
Britain, a maritime power, blockade was the major weapon. Conversely,
Germany's military philosophy
was