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to me safely. Dr. Schacht said that every cable sent by the American Embassy in Berlin was
immediately read by the German Foreign Office. I said that I was fully aware of that fact, and that
we had various ways in which confidential messages could be transmitted to me from Berlin
without their having to go by cable.
I asked Dr. Schacht whether he believed such a movement as that to which he had referred
could successfully take place if an offensive were undertaken either by Germany or by the Allies.
His reply was that if an offensive were undertaken, it would make it much more difficult, but that
he believed the individuals sponsoring the movement were in such a position as to prevent the
offensive from being undertaken by Germany, and that they would, in any event, be able to delay
it for a considerable period.
Dr. Schacht said it would take a few months perhaps, even if no offensive took place,
before the conspirators would be ready to take action.
Dr. Schacht referred to Hitler as the "greatest liar of all time", and as a genius, but an
amoral, a criminal, genius. He said with much satisfaction that he himself was the only man who
had ever dared tell him the truth.
Dr. Schacht further said that the atrocities being committed in Poland were so far worse
than what was imagined, as to beggar description. People in Germany were only now beginning to
know about them, and the reaction was intense.
At the end of our talk Dr. Schacht turned to me and asked