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that his mind was open on the subject and that if practical machinery of this kind could be worked
out he would favor it as the basis for French security in the future. Our conversation on this
subject was premised upon the continuing mobilization of the Powers now in conflict until the
first practical steps had been taken to carry out such a disarmament scheme, with progressive
demobilization over a considerable period of time.
The Prime Minister then went back to his experiences at Munich and to a discussion of the
personality of Hitler. He said that during the Munich meetings Hitler had been intolerant, and
intolerable, for long periods during the discussions, and then would suddenly change completely
and become moderate and conciliatory in his manner. He spoke with real appreciation of the
efforts of Mussolini at that time, and of the fact that it had been Mussolini time and again during
the Munich conferences who had brought Hitler back to a more reasonable point of view.
He spoke wlth contempt of Ribbentrop, and with great antipathy, but of a different kind, for
Goering, although he expressed the belief that the substitution of Hitler by Goering would not in
any real sense change the present character of the regime in Germany.
The Prime Minister had asked me to dine with him at the Quai d'Orsay at 8:30, with three
or four members of the Government, and I therefore left him at; this point in our conversation
since the hour for dinner had nearly arrived.
Before dinner I made a brief call of courtesy on M. Champetier