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could the Allied governments obtain that an agreement of the
kind you describe, which they might now enter into, would not
be as quickly violated as the agreement reached at Munich, in
which you yourself played so great a part?" To this inquiry he
made no direct reply, but limited himself to saying that he felt
that the problem of security could be dealt with simultaneously
with the problem of political peace.
As I started to leave the Duce made one final remark to me
which appeared to me of particular significance. He said: "You
may wish to remember that, while the German-Italian Pact
exists, I nevertheless retain complete liberty of action."
When I left he was again particularly cordial, and said in
English: "I am most grateful to you for having come to see me",
and said that he would communicate with me again on Tuesday,
before I left Rome, in order that I might learn of his interview
with Hitler.
As soon as I left the Duce, I spoke with the President on
the long distance telephone and related to him the chief
points of my interview. I expressed to the President my belief
that he should authorize me to say to the Duce that the President
did not feel that he possessed sufficient information with
regard to the views which had been expressed to me in my visits
to Berlin, Paris and London, to make it possible for him to agree
to permit Mussolini to oonvey to Hitler any impressions which
I myself had fc~med with regard to any possible territorial
readjustments. I said to the President that I feared that if
Mussolini communicated to Hitler any impressions of this
character, the impression would inevitably be created that the
President was participating in the determination of such bases
for a political peace as might be offered by Hitler.
The President said to me that he agreed with this
recommendation, and that I should further say that in the
belief of the President the problem of security was the
fundamental