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meeting was that he and Mussolini had not personally met
since the meeting in Munich eighteen months ago, and that
in view of the developments of the past six months a per-
sonal interview was required. Ciano added somewhat acidly
that he believed Rlbbentrop' s inability to make any pro-
gress when he had visited Rome last week and Hitler's
knowledge that he (Ciano) was determined to do everything
within his power to keep Italy from getting into the war,
was the more important reason for the request for the
meeting.
Count Ciano said that Hitler seemed in far better
physical and mental condition than when he had seen him
last summer and last October. He said that Hitler did
practically all of the talking and that Mussolini did very
little.
He said that he was very much impressed with the fact
that Hitler was far less intransigent in his point of
view with regard to the possibility of a negotiated peace
than had been Ribbentrop when the latter had visited Rome,
although he emphasized that every time that Hitler adopted
a reasonable attitude with regard to any problem, Ribben-
trop would invariably interrupt and try to persuade Hitler
to take a more rigid attitude.
Count Ciano said that he believed the most im-
portant thing for me to learn was that there would be ab-
soltely no change in Italy's non-belligerent attitude
as a result of the meeting. He said that Hitler had
hardly mentioned Russia, and had made no effort to sup-
port the requests made by Ribbentrop last week that Italy
enter into any closer relations or into any specific
agreements with Russia. Count Ciano said that he wanted
me