in a civil sense to the Italian Government. I believe UNRRA should operate,
if at all, in the most orderly way, and I think all objectives should be
specific rather than vague and indefinite. I don't believe that any agency
should be given too wide a scope of authority to come into the country at a
moment when Italy is really on the way to help itself. I don't believe that
imposing a foreign administration or anything that has the earmarks of
domination over this country at this time in relief operation and
administration is advisable. Nor do I believe it is advisable to impose upon
Italy American and British standards of living. I think many people who come
here think that American and British standards could be accomplished here. I
don't think they can. I think our background is such that it might set a goal
which is unattainable--certainly unattainable in these present days. I don't
think we want to change Italian people into Americans or British. Their
background is different. I think to set up s super-agency in this country
which would have some authority over any element of national life, that is not
already present here, is a great mistake. I don't think it is in the interest
of real recovery. I don't believe that any of us know what the precise
objective is. We talk in vague terms of relief as applied to children, as
applied to mothers, as applied to plagues or some other element of disease,
and we don't particularize. We don't know what it is we are trying to do. In
the matter of milk distribution we do know what we are doing; I don't think,
however, we can hope to do it throughout the whole nation. Even though certain
supplies of milk are available, it certainly would not be enough to take care
of the whole child population of Italy. It is a cormmendable, emotional
impulse to try to help somebody. I believe some of the alleged objectives of
UNRRA will cross the work of the National Committee; they are bound to. So
that if a careful analysis is not made, and if an arrangement is not made with
UNRRA--and Italy still wants the assistance of those elements that are
involved in American Relief for Italy, the field in which their donations are
to continue to be used through the National Committee, must be clearly
specified. The time will come when ARI, as far as we have representation here,
will not be necessary--assuming our field for actual distribution is clearly
delineated and practiced. Such aid to Italy can go on being made through the
National Committee without any further direction such as representatives of
American Relief for Italy give it in this group, because it will become a
matter of repetition. I think all relief activities should be made the
responsibility of the National Government. The work done by foreign agencies
in this country should be temporary. With that in mind as an objective it
seems to me we have got to be very specific as to our plans for the future.
Ing. Galeazzi: I think your point is quite just and right. It is much
better to have the national agencies function in a general sense rather than
any other agency on the spot. Wonderful help to the Italian Government might
be given through allowing their own organizations to function. The purpose of
the ENDSI should in a general sense be the purpose of having these supplies
reach the various organizations and departments of the Italian Government and
allowing them to function; for instance, giving medicines to the people--there
are hospitals and doctors here for that purpose. There are the Red Cross
organizations who are anxious to help. OMNI is already organized--an
organization of the government which is all over the country to help and
assist mothers and children. They only are lacking supplies. It is not a good
plan to run hospitals--but