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lasting peace. He said that Herr von Ribbentrop had
been utterly intransigent in his point of view, insist-
ing that Germany was determined to carry the war through
to a victorious conclusion and that the German Govern-
ment would consider no other alternative. The Cardinal
did not himself believe that Germany would undertake any
military offensive now on the Western front. He said
that he knew there was widespread opposition to such an
undertaking on the part of the General Staff, and that
he was by no means sure that there was not a movement on
foot within the General Staff to bring about a change in
regime. He asked me if I had any information to that
effect. I said that, of course, I had had many reports
to that effect, but that I had no information which I
could regard as conclusive.
I asked Cardinal Maglione what he believed were the
real motives which had induced Hitler to request the
interview today with Mussolini at the Brenner Pass. The
Cardinal said that he believed there were two possibili-
ties: first, that Germany was in reality determined to
undertake an immediate offensive, and that Hitler desired
to use this opportunity to bring pressure to bear upon
Mussolini to enter the war immediately on Germany's side;
second, that Hitler was considering peace terms which he.
would discuss with Mussolini for the purpose of having
such terms presented to the Allies through Mussolini.
I asked the Cardinal whether he thought that another pos-
sibility might not be the desire of Hitler to bring about
some form of closer accord between Mussolini and the
Soviet Government. The Cardinal said that this, of
course, was a possibility, but that he did not think it
possible